Téma: Novinky u AMD
Zdá se mi, že je potřeba nové vlákno. Hažte sem linky na zajímavosti a novinky týkající se CPU od mého oblíbeného AMD :slug
Pro úvod tady máme demonstrativní video s instalací CPU s jádry Barcelona do stávajícího PC:
[quote="Fudzilla"]AMD telling it's partners how to upgrade
A technical sales training video of how to upgrade from a dual core AMD socket-F system to a quad core Barcelona. Oddly enough the engineer on the video swaps out the BIOS chip rather than flashing the server, but a BIOS flash will do the job.
The great news here is that you can keep the same hardware platform and cooling, which should save a lot of money for those that are just looking at getting more raw CPU power.
It's a shame you can't see the CineBench scores in the video, but the quality just isn't good enough, but it looks cool as it CineBench runs eight renders at one time.[/quote]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2583&Itemid=1
Kéž by moje okna bootovala taky tak rychle... :D
[quote="Fudzilla"]AMD telling it's partners how to upgrade
A technical sales training video of how to upgrade from a dual core AMD socket-F system to a quad core Barcelona. Oddly enough the engineer on the video swaps out the BIOS chip rather than flashing the server, but a BIOS flash will do the job.
The great news here is that you can keep the same hardware platform and cooling, which should save a lot of money for those that are just looking at getting more raw CPU power.
It's a shame you can't see the CineBench scores in the video, but the quality just isn't good enough, but it looks cool as it CineBench runs eight renders at one time.[/quote]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2583&Itemid=1
Kéž by moje okna bootovala taky tak rychle... :D
BA-Step Barcelona For Launch In Sept
[QUOTE]INQ has revealed the new logo of the upcoming quad core Opteron processors based on Barcelona core, scheduled for launch on September 10th this year. We heard that AMD partners has gotten B1-step Barcelona for compatibility testing with better and newer AGESA code compared to the B0-step Barcelona. There is also B2-step Barcelona which is bug free and then BA-step Barcelona for mass production. AMD plans for two 2-way Opteron at 1.9 and 2.0GHz at launch and higher clocked parts at 2.1 to 2.4GHz coming later this year.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]INQ has revealed the new logo of the upcoming quad core Opteron processors based on Barcelona core, scheduled for launch on September 10th this year. We heard that AMD partners has gotten B1-step Barcelona for compatibility testing with better and newer AGESA code compared to the B0-step Barcelona. There is also B2-step Barcelona which is bug free and then BA-step Barcelona for mass production. AMD plans for two 2-way Opteron at 1.9 and 2.0GHz at launch and higher clocked parts at 2.1 to 2.4GHz coming later this year.[/QUOTE]
Věřte nevěřte - AMD K10 3,0GHz + 2xRadeon HD2900XT = 30031 3DMark06 bodů?
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970
[QUOTE=Smeli;46042]Věřte nevěřte - AMD K10 3,0GHz + 2xRadeon HD2900XT = 30031 3DMark06 bodů?
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970[/QUOTE]
"The pics are gone with my stolen laptop, though." :D:D:D noob
"allowed us to run 3DMark06, the most important to overclockers worldwide" :D:D:D
"we asked AMD if it would let us run memory benchmark scores on a system there" - uz to vidim:
"hele muzem otestovat tu vasi K10?"
"jo pojdte na to, my porad cekame na nekoho kdo to bude chtit otestovat a jste prvni koho to zajima"
"ale vsude panuje takovy tajemny humbuk ze si ty vysledky strezite, je to prisne tajny a nesmi se to dostat ven"
"to jsou blbosti, nas se jeste nikdo na nic neptal, pojdte na to a hned to zverejnete"
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970[/QUOTE]
"The pics are gone with my stolen laptop, though." :D:D:D noob
"allowed us to run 3DMark06, the most important to overclockers worldwide" :D:D:D
"we asked AMD if it would let us run memory benchmark scores on a system there" - uz to vidim:
"hele muzem otestovat tu vasi K10?"
"jo pojdte na to, my porad cekame na nekoho kdo to bude chtit otestovat a jste prvni koho to zajima"
"ale vsude panuje takovy tajemny humbuk ze si ty vysledky strezite, je to prisne tajny a nesmi se to dostat ven"
"to jsou blbosti, nas se jeste nikdo na nic neptal, pojdte na to a hned to zverejnete"
OK, když je ti toho málo:
More Phenom 3.0 GHz system pictures - Scores 5.9 in Vista
[QUOTE]We bought the Phenom FX 3.0 GHz system pictures with Stranglehold game that can use all four cores. We were looking at the pictures we took back at the convention centre and we noticed that we have a few more to share. The first part is here.
Phenom FX at 3.0 GHz is being recognized as AMD engineering sample at 3.0 GHZ and every single component of this AMD FX machine will score with a maximal 5.9 score.
The last picture shows the rendering quality of the UT engine powered Stranglehold and the John Woo rendered almost realistically. It was really run to break the mellows in the game, and we are looking forward for both Phenom FX 3.0 GHz and Stranglehold even this one looks more like a console game, but we will take it as it looks good.[/QUOTE]
More Phenom 3.0 GHz system pictures - Scores 5.9 in Vista
[QUOTE]We bought the Phenom FX 3.0 GHz system pictures with Stranglehold game that can use all four cores. We were looking at the pictures we took back at the convention centre and we noticed that we have a few more to share. The first part is here.
Phenom FX at 3.0 GHz is being recognized as AMD engineering sample at 3.0 GHZ and every single component of this AMD FX machine will score with a maximal 5.9 score.
The last picture shows the rendering quality of the UT engine powered Stranglehold and the John Woo rendered almost realistically. It was really run to break the mellows in the game, and we are looking forward for both Phenom FX 3.0 GHz and Stranglehold even this one looks more like a console game, but we will take it as it looks good.[/QUOTE]
lidi čtěte Aktualita, pravidelně tam přináším drby :D
s tím testem je to ale dost podezřelý takže sme to raděj nezveřejňovali... :slug
s tím testem je to ale dost podezřelý takže sme to raděj nezveřejňovali... :slug
hohoho :D
AMD silences quad-core critics
[QUOTE]AMD has released benchmark data for its upcoming Barcelona quad-core server processor, and has demonstrated a quad-core Phenom desktop processor running at 3GHz.
Barcelona is scheduled to ship in August. Phenom is slated for release in the fourth quarter of this year, although AMD has yet to say at which clock speeds the first chips will run.
AMD came under fire last month when it announced that its Barcelona quad-core server processor would ship at 2GHz, sparking speculation that it would not be able to deliver on an earlier promise to outperform Intel's chips.
Intel, by comparison, is shipping a 2.66GHz X5355 Xeon quad-core chip as its fastest server processor and has a 3GHz model for workstations. The chip maker has gained market share in the server market in recent months.
AMD boasted at its Technology Analyst Day at its Silicon Valley headquarters that its processor outperformed a 2.33GHz Intel Xeon quad-core processor by 25 per cent in the SPECfp_rate2006 benchmark, and claimed a 30 per cent advantage on the performance-per-watt metric.
The chip firm claimed that comparing Barcelona with the 2.33GHz E5345 Xeon provided similar configurations in terms of power consumption and clock speeds, making for the most honest comparison.
Roger Kay, an analyst with Endpoint Technologies, told vnunet.com that the new data ends the debate about whether AMD will be able to keep its performance promise.
"This gives AMD bragging rights for some period of time," he said. "Given the broad assault from Intel, it is good for AMD to achieve a large victory."
Kay warned, however, that the benchmarks are comparing a future AMD product with a current Intel chip, which makes for a somewhat skewed comparison.
Jim McGregor, a director at analyst firm In-Stat, suggested that AMD's victory might be short lived. "I do not see the leapfrog right now," he said.
But McGregor added that competitiveness in the chip market depends on more than performance benchmarks. Factors such as power consumption and price also come into play.[/QUOTE]
Vidko s testem: http://www.vnunet.com/tv/?channel=vnunet.com%20TV&clipid=1386_vnunet_0096
Vidko s popisem Barcelony: http://www.vnunet.com/tv/?channel=vnunet.com%20TV&clipid=1386_vnunet_0095
AMD silences quad-core critics
[QUOTE]AMD has released benchmark data for its upcoming Barcelona quad-core server processor, and has demonstrated a quad-core Phenom desktop processor running at 3GHz.
Barcelona is scheduled to ship in August. Phenom is slated for release in the fourth quarter of this year, although AMD has yet to say at which clock speeds the first chips will run.
AMD came under fire last month when it announced that its Barcelona quad-core server processor would ship at 2GHz, sparking speculation that it would not be able to deliver on an earlier promise to outperform Intel's chips.
Intel, by comparison, is shipping a 2.66GHz X5355 Xeon quad-core chip as its fastest server processor and has a 3GHz model for workstations. The chip maker has gained market share in the server market in recent months.
AMD boasted at its Technology Analyst Day at its Silicon Valley headquarters that its processor outperformed a 2.33GHz Intel Xeon quad-core processor by 25 per cent in the SPECfp_rate2006 benchmark, and claimed a 30 per cent advantage on the performance-per-watt metric.
The chip firm claimed that comparing Barcelona with the 2.33GHz E5345 Xeon provided similar configurations in terms of power consumption and clock speeds, making for the most honest comparison.
Roger Kay, an analyst with Endpoint Technologies, told vnunet.com that the new data ends the debate about whether AMD will be able to keep its performance promise.
"This gives AMD bragging rights for some period of time," he said. "Given the broad assault from Intel, it is good for AMD to achieve a large victory."
Kay warned, however, that the benchmarks are comparing a future AMD product with a current Intel chip, which makes for a somewhat skewed comparison.
Jim McGregor, a director at analyst firm In-Stat, suggested that AMD's victory might be short lived. "I do not see the leapfrog right now," he said.
But McGregor added that competitiveness in the chip market depends on more than performance benchmarks. Factors such as power consumption and price also come into play.[/QUOTE]
Vidko s testem: http://www.vnunet.com/tv/?channel=vnunet.com%20TV&clipid=1386_vnunet_0096
Vidko s popisem Barcelony: http://www.vnunet.com/tv/?channel=vnunet.com%20TV&clipid=1386_vnunet_0095
[QUOTE=Pavel Boček;46901]!!! http://www.worlds-fastest.com/d.pdf/wfw991.pdf !!![/QUOTE]
Na tohle jsem taky narazil, ale pořád nevím, jestli je to test se starým Opteronem nebo už Barcelonou....
Na tohle jsem taky narazil, ale pořád nevím, jestli je to test se starým Opteronem nebo už Barcelonou....
[QUOTE=Smeli;46936]Na tohle jsem taky narazil, ale pořád nevím, jestli je to test se starým Opteronem nebo už Barcelonou....[/QUOTE]
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AMD odhalí temnou stranu:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16125&catid=6
[SIZE="1"]Podle hada a temné strany bych si dovolil tipnout něco s Razrem, ale jinak mě nic nenapadá...[/SIZE]
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16125&catid=6
[SIZE="1"]Podle hada a temné strany bych si dovolil tipnout něco s Razrem, ale jinak mě nic nenapadá...[/SIZE]
Vzhledem k tomu, že AMD uvádí tripplecore, což je zmetkovitý quadcore s jedním vypnutým jádrem, tak bych to tipoval na zásadní problém ve výrobě / výtěžnosti:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~120741,00.html
A Intel se mezitím směje, má quadcore dávno na trhu, a připravuje Nehalem / osmijádro.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~120741,00.html
A Intel se mezitím směje, má quadcore dávno na trhu, a připravuje Nehalem / osmijádro.
[QUOTE=radekhulan;50321]Vzhledem k tomu, že AMD uvádí tripplecore, což je zmetkovitý quadcore s jedním vypnutým jádrem, tak bych to tipoval na zásadní problém ve výrobě / výtěžnosti:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~120741,00.html
A Intel se mezitím směje, má quadcore dávno na trhu, a připravuje Nehalem / osmijádro.[/QUOTE]
Intel za prvé prodává zmetky už dávno a za druhé narozdíl od intelu AMD neslepuje DC aby mělo QR. Jinak, díky za připomenutí - měl sem tu čest to číst všude kam sem vlezl :D
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~120741,00.html
A Intel se mezitím směje, má quadcore dávno na trhu, a připravuje Nehalem / osmijádro.[/QUOTE]
Intel za prvé prodává zmetky už dávno a za druhé narozdíl od intelu AMD neslepuje DC aby mělo QR. Jinak, díky za připomenutí - měl sem tu čest to číst všude kam sem vlezl :D
Triple-Core bude podle mě úspěšný, pokud AMD nasadí zmetkovou cenu :D
Osobně na to pohlížím velmi kladně a láká mě to :)
Osobně na to pohlížím velmi kladně a láká mě to :)
[QUOTE=radekhulan;50321]...[/QUOTE]
a lidi se budou smát že mají tři jádra (což stejně nevyužijí) výkonově v single-thread aplikacích MNOHEM rychlejší než čtyřjádra (pže sdílí L3 :thumb) za mnohem lepší cenu než čtyřjádra...a Intell bude prodávat tak leda dvoujádra z vadnejch čtyř za nekřesťanský prachy (zatím jsou u AMD zaváděcí ceny, to spadne :cool:) :stupid
btw, ta L2 je patrně (aspoň podle Bílejch papírů) v NB, tzn. na AM2 do čtyřjádra ee :thumbdown bylo by o to dost pomalejší (zvlášť pak s DDR3), tam leda levnější čipy...ale že je kompatibilita je super :thumb
a lidi se budou smát že mají tři jádra (což stejně nevyužijí) výkonově v single-thread aplikacích MNOHEM rychlejší než čtyřjádra (pže sdílí L3 :thumb) za mnohem lepší cenu než čtyřjádra...a Intell bude prodávat tak leda dvoujádra z vadnejch čtyř za nekřesťanský prachy (zatím jsou u AMD zaváděcí ceny, to spadne :cool:) :stupid
btw, ta L2 je patrně (aspoň podle Bílejch papírů) v NB, tzn. na AM2 do čtyřjádra ee :thumbdown bylo by o to dost pomalejší (zvlášť pak s DDR3), tam leda levnější čipy...ale že je kompatibilita je super :thumb
Sdílení L3 opravdu není výhra, zvláště pokud dualcore Intelu sdílí podstatně rychlejší L2.. Navíc u desktopové verze L3 asi vůbec nebude, nebo podstatně menší velikost L3.. Barcelona se ztěžka dotahuje na Core 2 Duo / Quad, jenže za měsíc je tu Penryn a za 10 měsíců na trhu Nehalem.
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..
[QUOTE=radekhulan;50339]Sdílení L3 opravdu není výhra, zvláště pokud dualcore Intelu sdílí podstatně rychlejší L2.. Navíc u desktopové verze L3 asi vůbec nebude, nebo podstatně menší velikost L3.. Barcelona se ztěžka dotahuje na Core 2 Duo / Quad, jenže za měsíc je tu Penryn a za 10 měsíců na trhu Nehalem.
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..[/QUOTE]
LOL Intel se díky (řeknu to na plnou hubu) ABSOLUTNĚ STUPIDNÍ sběrnici snaží vytřískat z L2 co se dá, tak mu nezbývá než tu obrovskou L2 (co zabírá půl procesoru :stupid) sdílet když není využívaná; na druhou stranu u K10 je cache pro každé jádro a při menších taktech (do 2,5 GHz) plně stačí 512KB díky HT; sdílená L3 je pak výhra, o tom si Intel nechává zdát; btw, ať ty tu flámuješ jak chceš, tak testy, které se různě dějí až teď, jasně dokazují, že první serverové Conroe procesory stejně nebyly lepší v poměru výkon na watt (jak tvrdil Intel) a tyto modely K10 jsou taky jen první, však další na tom budou mnohem líp (jen si odpusť zášť a vzpomeň si jak taky nešly taktovat a obecně stály za zlámanou grešli); nakonec za chvíli půjde cena dolů, takže si člověk dovolí výkonnější procesor za míň
jo a až budeš za rok a půl zase flámovat pro AMD, lidi tady i jinde ti to rádi připomenou :)
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..[/QUOTE]
LOL Intel se díky (řeknu to na plnou hubu) ABSOLUTNĚ STUPIDNÍ sběrnici snaží vytřískat z L2 co se dá, tak mu nezbývá než tu obrovskou L2 (co zabírá půl procesoru :stupid) sdílet když není využívaná; na druhou stranu u K10 je cache pro každé jádro a při menších taktech (do 2,5 GHz) plně stačí 512KB díky HT; sdílená L3 je pak výhra, o tom si Intel nechává zdát; btw, ať ty tu flámuješ jak chceš, tak testy, které se různě dějí až teď, jasně dokazují, že první serverové Conroe procesory stejně nebyly lepší v poměru výkon na watt (jak tvrdil Intel) a tyto modely K10 jsou taky jen první, však další na tom budou mnohem líp (jen si odpusť zášť a vzpomeň si jak taky nešly taktovat a obecně stály za zlámanou grešli); nakonec za chvíli půjde cena dolů, takže si člověk dovolí výkonnější procesor za míň
jo a až budeš za rok a půl zase flámovat pro AMD, lidi tady i jinde ti to rádi připomenou :)
X3 je imho uplne normalni a dalo se cekat. prodavaji se CPU s vyrazenou casti cache, prodavaji se dvoujadra s vyrazenym jednim jadrem, tak proc by se nemohly prodavat ctyrjadra s jednim jadrem vyrazenym? je to rozhodne lepsi nez na ctyrjadru vypnout dve a z toho jedno funkcni.
intel ma podle me vyhodnejsi strategii, ze slepy nepred slepy dve x-jadra do jednoho procesoru, uvede die-shrink, a az dalsi generaci uvede nativni 2*x-jadro. da se tak dobre vychytat vyrobni proces a nejsou takovy problemy s vyteznosti
AMD se zase zene za tim mit prvni nativni x-jadro a ma s tim akorat problemy. ono se AMD zene celkve hodne dopredu, aniz by to v dobe uvedeni melo podstatny prinos. viz 64-bit CPU, HD2900 kteremu se porad ladi ovladace a vykon "zraje", predimenzovana datova sirka u barcelony...
//hlavne doufam ze se AMD z barcelony podari jeste neco vytriskat a poradne to s ni rozjet, hodne nerad bych aby AMD skoncilo... trocha konkurencniho boje by neuskodila
EDIT: a nechte tu prosim toho flame, vim ze se to nabizi, ale skuste se trochu krotit
AMD tezi z integrovaneho radice, Intel zase z velke cache. no a co?
intel ma podle me vyhodnejsi strategii, ze slepy nepred slepy dve x-jadra do jednoho procesoru, uvede die-shrink, a az dalsi generaci uvede nativni 2*x-jadro. da se tak dobre vychytat vyrobni proces a nejsou takovy problemy s vyteznosti
AMD se zase zene za tim mit prvni nativni x-jadro a ma s tim akorat problemy. ono se AMD zene celkve hodne dopredu, aniz by to v dobe uvedeni melo podstatny prinos. viz 64-bit CPU, HD2900 kteremu se porad ladi ovladace a vykon "zraje", predimenzovana datova sirka u barcelony...
//hlavne doufam ze se AMD z barcelony podari jeste neco vytriskat a poradne to s ni rozjet, hodne nerad bych aby AMD skoncilo... trocha konkurencniho boje by neuskodila
EDIT: a nechte tu prosim toho flame, vim ze se to nabizi, ale skuste se trochu krotit
AMD tezi z integrovaneho radice, Intel zase z velke cache. no a co?
[QUOTE=mech13;50347]...[/QUOTE]
no ale nezapomeň, že AMD někdy příští rok jen MŮŽE slepit dvě 4 a mít osmijádro (ale jak to bude si netroufám říct, prý žádný jaderný :D války nebudou, ale pravdou je, že s HT3 by to asi fachčilo dost slušně a IMHO mít na serveru 16 jader=extra výkon za menší cenu=postavit superpočítač za 2/3 ceny...sakra ať se vyprdnou na stagnaci a jdou do osmijader :D aspoň budou mít víc superpočítačů)
btw, Sun teď staví supercomputer na Barcelonách a při počtu 19k procesorů bude skoro 2x lepší než BlueGene/L
no ale nezapomeň, že AMD někdy příští rok jen MŮŽE slepit dvě 4 a mít osmijádro (ale jak to bude si netroufám říct, prý žádný jaderný :D války nebudou, ale pravdou je, že s HT3 by to asi fachčilo dost slušně a IMHO mít na serveru 16 jader=extra výkon za menší cenu=postavit superpočítač za 2/3 ceny...sakra ať se vyprdnou na stagnaci a jdou do osmijader :D aspoň budou mít víc superpočítačů)
btw, Sun teď staví supercomputer na Barcelonách a při počtu 19k procesorů bude skoro 2x lepší než BlueGene/L
[QUOTE=Pavel Boček;50344]...[/QUOTE]
Ty chceš říct, že přesun L2 do NB je výhoda a že sdílená L3 je lepší než sdílená L2? Přesun L2 do NB mi přijde jako totální trotlovina na n-tou. Kdes to našel? Možná, že to má nějaké opodstatnění, ale mě se to zdá jako naprostá šílenost.
Jinak X3 je podle mně lepší než prodávat nepodařená 4jádra jako 2jádra.
Ty chceš říct, že přesun L2 do NB je výhoda a že sdílená L3 je lepší než sdílená L2? Přesun L2 do NB mi přijde jako totální trotlovina na n-tou. Kdes to našel? Možná, že to má nějaké opodstatnění, ale mě se to zdá jako naprostá šílenost.
Jinak X3 je podle mně lepší než prodávat nepodařená 4jádra jako 2jádra.
[QUOTE=P@pi;50350]Ty chceš říct, že přesun L2 do NB je výhoda a že sdílená L3 je lepší než sdílená L2? Přesun L2 do NB mi přijde jako totální trotlovina na n-tou. Kdes to našel? Možná, že to má nějaké opodstatnění, ale mě se to zdá jako naprostá šílenost.
Jinak X3 je podle mně lepší než prodávat nepodařená 4jádra jako 2jádra.[/QUOTE]
nene L3 je v NB...jestli jsem někde napsal L2 tak sry, ta zůstává pěkně na jádrech (nebo blízko, teď si nevybavuju přesně jak vypadá ten čip...no prostě je tam kde je to nejlepší :))
Jinak X3 je podle mně lepší než prodávat nepodařená 4jádra jako 2jádra.[/QUOTE]
nene L3 je v NB...jestli jsem někde napsal L2 tak sry, ta zůstává pěkně na jádrech (nebo blízko, teď si nevybavuju přesně jak vypadá ten čip...no prostě je tam kde je to nejlepší :))
Napsals L2, L3 dává celkem smysl. V tom případě se objevuje další otázka. Kdo všechno bude dělat čipsety pro AMD? V takovém případě by byl docela velký rozdíl mezi čipsety, nemluvě o tom, že se prodraží desky. Takže CPU zlevní a MB podraží. Nějaká změna v ceně :D?
[QUOTE=P@pi;50356]Napsals L2, L3 dává celkem smysl. V tom případě se objevuje další otázka. Kdo všechno bude dělat čipsety pro AMD? V takovém případě by byl docela velký rozdíl mezi čipsety, nemluvě o tom, že se prodraží desky. Takže CPU zlevní a MB podraží. Nějaká změna v ceně :D?[/QUOTE]
Jo sry s tou cache...jinak o tom že bude v té NB to vyhrabali lidi myslim na TNQ (já bych nedokázal přečíst 180 stránek, ale zase pro ně to není cizí jazyk, že :)). Jak to bude s čipovými sadami netuším...napáda mně něco podobného jako s grafickými kartami, čili že třeba výrobci čipových sad dostanou část specifikací (což asi musí dostávat stejně, ale zase co teď s NVIDIÍ) a podle toho se zařídí
Jo sry s tou cache...jinak o tom že bude v té NB to vyhrabali lidi myslim na TNQ (já bych nedokázal přečíst 180 stránek, ale zase pro ně to není cizí jazyk, že :)). Jak to bude s čipovými sadami netuším...napáda mně něco podobného jako s grafickými kartami, čili že třeba výrobci čipových sad dostanou část specifikací (což asi musí dostávat stejně, ale zase co teď s NVIDIÍ) a podle toho se zařídí
Hm, baví se tady každý o hruškách a jabkách nebo sem jediný kdo nedával pozor při hodinách JČ?
Krom toh, ste všichni mastně OT které sem nevědomky rozputal asi já... takže se držte AMD a nemotejte flamewar a nebude se mazat :)
Krom toh, ste všichni mastně OT které sem nevědomky rozputal asi já... takže se držte AMD a nemotejte flamewar a nebude se mazat :)
[QUOTE=Smeli;50370]Hm, baví se tady každý o hruškách a jabkách nebo sem jediný kdo nedával pozor při hodinách JČ?
Krom toh, ste všichni mastně OT které sem nevědomky rozputal asi já... takže se držte AMD a nemotejte flamewar a nebude se mazat :)[/QUOTE]
proč OT? bavíme se o procesorech, bavíme se dokonce o procesorech K10
jinak fakt jsem to četl, tak já nevím...asi ten White paper pro ně přece jen je cizí jazyk :stupid
aha tak Fudzilla no... http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3066&Itemid=1 (asi ty WP přidám do to-read seznamu :rules)
Krom toh, ste všichni mastně OT které sem nevědomky rozputal asi já... takže se držte AMD a nemotejte flamewar a nebude se mazat :)[/QUOTE]
proč OT? bavíme se o procesorech, bavíme se dokonce o procesorech K10
jinak fakt jsem to četl, tak já nevím...asi ten White paper pro ně přece jen je cizí jazyk :stupid
aha tak Fudzilla no... http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3066&Itemid=1 (asi ty WP přidám do to-read seznamu :rules)
[QUOTE=Smeli;50202]AMD odhalí temnou stranu:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16125&catid=6
[SIZE="1"]Podle hada a temné strany bych si dovolil tipnout něco s Razrem, ale jinak mě nic nenapadá...[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Tak se údajně jedná "jen" o černou edici AX2 5000+ s odemčeným násobičem:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16176&catid=2
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16125&catid=6
[SIZE="1"]Podle hada a temné strany bych si dovolil tipnout něco s Razrem, ale jinak mě nic nenapadá...[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Tak se údajně jedná "jen" o černou edici AX2 5000+ s odemčeným násobičem:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16176&catid=2
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/06/working-rv670-phenom-system
těším se jak malý dítě :D
P.S.: zítra to uvidíte od někoho super zpracované v novinkách [SIZE="1"](:notsure coto :D)[/SIZE]
těším se jak malý dítě :D
P.S.: zítra to uvidíte od někoho super zpracované v novinkách [SIZE="1"](:notsure coto :D)[/SIZE]
inquier - jedna pani povidala
[QUOTE=ICEBOSS;53230]inquier - jedna pani povidala[/QUOTE]
Jj a ty fotky co tam jsou fotili v garáži že :stupid
[SIZE="1"](btw, Fuad už je na Fudzille, takže TINQ je v poho...)[/SIZE]
Jj a ty fotky co tam jsou fotili v garáži že :stupid
[SIZE="1"](btw, Fuad už je na Fudzille, takže TINQ je v poho...)[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=radekhulan;50339]Sdílení L3 opravdu není výhra, zvláště pokud dualcore Intelu sdílí podstatně rychlejší L2.. Navíc u desktopové verze L3 asi vůbec nebude, nebo podstatně menší velikost L3.. Barcelona se ztěžka dotahuje na Core 2 Duo / Quad, jenže za měsíc je tu Penryn a za 10 měsíců na trhu Nehalem.
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..[/QUOTE]
Nedomnivam se, ze Penryn bude vykonejsi nez Barcelona...Nehalem ovsem druha vec :)..Nechme se prekvapit.
AMD stále zůstane jako prodejce těžko kompatibilních (rychlejší či pomalejší hry, bugový DualCore driver a Optimizer), nestabilních (chipsety) a levných procesorů pro nemajetné..[/QUOTE]
Nedomnivam se, ze Penryn bude vykonejsi nez Barcelona...Nehalem ovsem druha vec :)..Nechme se prekvapit.
[QUOTE]AMD has confirmed the model name and clock speed of the upcoming quad-core Phenom processors and plans to launch them as scheduled in Nov/Dec while Phenom FX will launched in Q1 next year. AMD plans to add higher clocked Phenom FX and Phenom quad-core processors in Q2 next year.
Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008.
Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.[/QUOTE]
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Quad-Core_Phenom_Models_%26_Clocks_Revealed/5331.html
[QUOTE]As we have mentioned before, Phenom X2 branding will be changed to Athlon going forward. The dual core Athlon 6-series are based on Kuma core originally scheduled for launch in Q4 this year are pushed back 2 quarters to Q2 2008 to make way for arrival of triple-core Phenom 7-series in March. There will be 2 models at launch; Athlon 6250 and 6050, both at 65W TDP but exact clock speeds are not determined yet. Previously, AMD listed them at between 2 to 2.6GHz clock. Also AMD plans to add two single-core 45W Athlon processors using Lima core to replace Orleans early next year.[/QUOTE]
Pro ty, co marně hledali Phenom X2 v předchozí tabulce :)
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Adds_Kuma_%26_Lima_To_Athlon_Brand/5336.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/11/amd-790fx-eats-8w
[QUOTE]In a battle of high-end chipsets - the Nforce 780 versus 790FX - it will be interesting to see how the MCP+BR04 (48W TDP) battles against the RD790 NorthBridge. This eats only 8W and is a native PCIe 2.0 chip. This is a 40W difference And even when Southbridge chips are calculated, ATI's own RD790+SB600 (later SB700) combination is a winner for low-power systems.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]In a battle of high-end chipsets - the Nforce 780 versus 790FX - it will be interesting to see how the MCP+BR04 (48W TDP) battles against the RD790 NorthBridge. This eats only 8W and is a native PCIe 2.0 chip. This is a 40W difference And even when Southbridge chips are calculated, ATI's own RD790+SB600 (later SB700) combination is a winner for low-power systems.[/QUOTE]
AMD manufacturing 45nm processors
;)
[QUOTE=TG Daily]Sunnyvale (CA) - While refusing to speak about previously announced future products like Bobcat and Bulldozer, AMD's CTO Dirk Meyer did indicate during their Q3 conference call that Fab 36 is manufacturing 45nm processors "right now".
...[/QUOTE]
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34439/135/
[QUOTE=TG Daily]Sunnyvale (CA) - While refusing to speak about previously announced future products like Bobcat and Bulldozer, AMD's CTO Dirk Meyer did indicate during their Q3 conference call that Fab 36 is manufacturing 45nm processors "right now".
...[/QUOTE]
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34439/135/
Ještě tři nové desky od Asusu s novými chipsety od AMD:
M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFi/AP
M3A32-MVP Deluxe
M3A
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_18470016/tm.htm
M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFi/AP
M3A32-MVP Deluxe
M3A
http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_18470016/tm.htm
pekne, ta prostredni bude takova mainstremova bych si tipl, neco jako sveho casu M2N-e
[QUOTE=flanker;55437]pekne, ta prostredni bude takova mainstremova bych si tipl, neco jako sveho casu M2N-e[/QUOTE]
Myslí že tahle deska bude spíš do segmentu kolem 4k s dph, je to pěkný kousek od oka, ale ten chladič mi dělá krapet vrásky...
Myslí že tahle deska bude spíš do segmentu kolem 4k s dph, je to pěkný kousek od oka, ale ten chladič mi dělá krapet vrásky...
AMD tri-core CPU codenames and features revealed
[QUOTE=digitimes.com]Codenames and features of the tri-core CPUs AMD is planning to launch next year and in 2009 have been revealed by sources at motherboard makers.
Toliman adopts a 65nm process, supports socket AM2+ motherboards, and supports HyperTransport 3.0. The CPUs will have 2MB L3 cache and will be launched by the end of March 2008, according to the sources.
The next-generation, 45nm-based CPUs will adopt socket AM3, support HyperTransport 3.0 and DDR2/DDR3 memory, and will launch in first half of 2009, noted the sources.
The motherboard makers pointed out that whether AMD's tri-core CPUs are successful in the market will depend on their price/performance ratio compared quad-core and dual-core CPUs.
AMD declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=digitimes.com]Codenames and features of the tri-core CPUs AMD is planning to launch next year and in 2009 have been revealed by sources at motherboard makers.
Toliman adopts a 65nm process, supports socket AM2+ motherboards, and supports HyperTransport 3.0. The CPUs will have 2MB L3 cache and will be launched by the end of March 2008, according to the sources.
The next-generation, 45nm-based CPUs will adopt socket AM3, support HyperTransport 3.0 and DDR2/DDR3 memory, and will launch in first half of 2009, noted the sources.
The motherboard makers pointed out that whether AMD's tri-core CPUs are successful in the market will depend on their price/performance ratio compared quad-core and dual-core CPUs.
AMD declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.[/QUOTE]
Compilers helped AMD to 2.5GHz Opteron scores
[QUOTE=theINQ]THE PORTLAND GROUP said the latest version of its compilers gave AMD the ability to run Opteron quad core 2.5GHz processors 27 per cent faster than the same benchmark on 3GHz Xeon X5365 quad core core chips.
The SPECfp_rate-base2006 results compare the Opteron to the Xeon, which runs Intel 10.1 compilers.
The release - PGI 7.1 - now includes optimising PGI compilers and tools for Macinteltosh machines, and a tools suite for Windows which supports bugging of MSMPI apps on HPC.
The compilers, said Portland, support Open MP and MPI including graphical debug and profiling tools. The firm said that developers face a "substantial challenge" of porting old serial apps to effectively use multiple cores.
AMD senior director Michael Goddard, said: "PGI and AMD have been cooperating through [during] 2007 to ensure PGI compilers are highly tuned for the new micro-architectures and features of quad core Opteron processors."
Douglas Miles, a director at TPG, said 7.1 is the fastest Fortran compiler and C and C++ compilers show performance gains of over 10 per cent on version 7.0. µ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=theINQ]THE PORTLAND GROUP said the latest version of its compilers gave AMD the ability to run Opteron quad core 2.5GHz processors 27 per cent faster than the same benchmark on 3GHz Xeon X5365 quad core core chips.
The SPECfp_rate-base2006 results compare the Opteron to the Xeon, which runs Intel 10.1 compilers.
The release - PGI 7.1 - now includes optimising PGI compilers and tools for Macinteltosh machines, and a tools suite for Windows which supports bugging of MSMPI apps on HPC.
The compilers, said Portland, support Open MP and MPI including graphical debug and profiling tools. The firm said that developers face a "substantial challenge" of porting old serial apps to effectively use multiple cores.
AMD senior director Michael Goddard, said: "PGI and AMD have been cooperating through [during] 2007 to ensure PGI compilers are highly tuned for the new micro-architectures and features of quad core Opteron processors."
Douglas Miles, a director at TPG, said 7.1 is the fastest Fortran compiler and C and C++ compilers show performance gains of over 10 per cent on version 7.0. µ[/QUOTE]
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ on 790FX
[QUOTE=fudzilla]Yes, you read the title correctly, CPU-Z verified screenshots shows that MSI's 790FX board has reached an impressive FSB speed of 510MHz on plain old air cooling. The MSI board is recognised as the MS-7376 and we're not quite sure which model it is, but it might be the MSI K9A2 Platinum that we wrote about here.
The processor used for the test was an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ with the multiplier set at 5x and the HTT at 1x as to remove any CPU limitations. If the same result will be possible on the upcoming Phenom processor is yet to be seen. DAAMIT may have a winner here, and we would certainly like to see a Phenom on a 790FX board combined with RV670XT graphics.
November is the month when it will all be revealed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=fudzilla]Yes, you read the title correctly, CPU-Z verified screenshots shows that MSI's 790FX board has reached an impressive FSB speed of 510MHz on plain old air cooling. The MSI board is recognised as the MS-7376 and we're not quite sure which model it is, but it might be the MSI K9A2 Platinum that we wrote about here.
The processor used for the test was an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ with the multiplier set at 5x and the HTT at 1x as to remove any CPU limitations. If the same result will be possible on the upcoming Phenom processor is yet to be seen. DAAMIT may have a winner here, and we would certainly like to see a Phenom on a 790FX board combined with RV670XT graphics.
November is the month when it will all be revealed.[/QUOTE]
Crysis CPU benchmark (QX6850 VS QX9650 VS PhenomX4)
[QUOTE=expreview.com]Thanks to the built-in CPU/GPU branchmark system of Crysis, we can easily finish CPU/GPU branchmark on this game. The GPU branchmark will finish today,before that let's have some branchmark score of CPUs:QX6850,QX9650,Phenom X4.
For more balance, Phenom X4 is already OC to 3GHz(15x200MHz) .Because the built-in Memory controller of Phenom have some auto setting funtion, so the memory frenquency is set to 375MHz automatically.
The mobos we are using: AMD's RD790 and Intel's P35. All the settings(including the game)are all default. Graphis card is 8800GTX, the driver is the newest 169.01. All the tests are running in XP. Do you still remember the date that the two new CPU become available?
Intel QX9650:Nov 12, 2007
AMD Phenom X4:Nov 20,2007[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="1"]Zaráží mě screen Phenomu, kde je v CPU-Z špatné logo CPU, pokud si dobře pamatuju měl by umět v téhle verzi určit Phenom nebo Opteron logo...[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=expreview.com]Thanks to the built-in CPU/GPU branchmark system of Crysis, we can easily finish CPU/GPU branchmark on this game. The GPU branchmark will finish today,before that let's have some branchmark score of CPUs:QX6850,QX9650,Phenom X4.
For more balance, Phenom X4 is already OC to 3GHz(15x200MHz) .Because the built-in Memory controller of Phenom have some auto setting funtion, so the memory frenquency is set to 375MHz automatically.
The mobos we are using: AMD's RD790 and Intel's P35. All the settings(including the game)are all default. Graphis card is 8800GTX, the driver is the newest 169.01. All the tests are running in XP. Do you still remember the date that the two new CPU become available?
Intel QX9650:Nov 12, 2007
AMD Phenom X4:Nov 20,2007[/QUOTE]
[SIZE="1"]Zaráží mě screen Phenomu, kde je v CPU-Z špatné logo CPU, pokud si dobře pamatuju měl by umět v téhle verzi určit Phenom nebo Opteron logo...[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=Smeli;57454]
Crysis CPU benchmark (QX6850 VS QX9650 VS PhenomX4)
[SIZE="1"]Zaráží mě screen Phenomu, kde je v CPU-Z špatné logo CPU, pokud si dobře pamatuju měl by umět v téhle verzi určit Phenom nebo Opteron logo...[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
myslis, ze je to fake a nebo by na tom mohlo byt neco pravdy?...Pokud ano, trosku mu to zhorsili pametmi...Nevim,proc mu je dali jen cca 750Mhz a cl5, kdyz by mel podporovat ddr2 1200Mhz
[SIZE="1"]Zaráží mě screen Phenomu, kde je v CPU-Z špatné logo CPU, pokud si dobře pamatuju měl by umět v téhle verzi určit Phenom nebo Opteron logo...[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
myslis, ze je to fake a nebo by na tom mohlo byt neco pravdy?...Pokud ano, trosku mu to zhorsili pametmi...Nevim,proc mu je dali jen cca 750Mhz a cl5, kdyz by mel podporovat ddr2 1200Mhz
hlavne je jasny ze to nevyuziva ctyrjadro. na tom by mohlo AMD neco vydelat protoze by ho nemuselo limitovat FSB pri plnem zatizeni 4 jader. osobne bych cekal stejny nebo vyssi vykon na takt jako E/Q6XXX, ze ma Q9XXX nahoru se moc nendivim... ale zase ze Q9xxx je na tom stejne jako Q6xxx... no upne OK ten test mozna nebude. ale zase je to jen jedna hra, ktere proste muze nejvic sedet intel. podle jedne tabulky se da tezko neco uszovat
Dlého mého neprofesionálního názoru to decentně řečeno "smrdí". Zhoršené časování a snížená frekvence prý byla nutná kvůli desce... no, já nvm... Doufám v to, že výkon Phenomu bude takový jak říká mech za ovšem lepší cenu...:notsure
Taky se říká, že výkon bude fakt mírně pod C2D (no ty čtyři jádra pod LOADem jak říká mech zase určitš udělají svoje, navíc když se tam nacpou rychlejší paměti atd.), ale mají být levnější. Ačkoliv - teď se toho říká hodně ;)
[QUOTE=expreview.com]We know that in Nov.15 HD 3800 will begin to sell. But we still don't know that RD790 and Phenom X4 will come out earlier(than the AMD plan) or not.
Here is some news that every AMD fanboy would like:
AMD is developing a software called "AMD overdrive". Just like nTune, it can adjust different system values. It's interesting that we find out the software can adjust multiple frequencies of different cores independently.
Personally I think that's good news for people that cares about the total power consumptions of their computers. They can just turn off some cores while they are watching DVDrips.[/QUOTE]
Here is some news that every AMD fanboy would like:
AMD is developing a software called "AMD overdrive". Just like nTune, it can adjust different system values. It's interesting that we find out the software can adjust multiple frequencies of different cores independently.
Personally I think that's good news for people that cares about the total power consumptions of their computers. They can just turn off some cores while they are watching DVDrips.[/QUOTE]
tak to je sakra sikovna vec, za to ma u me AMD velkyho boda. pokud to zvlada plne fungovat za chodu systemu a ma to ruzne definovatelne profily (snadno prepinatelne nebo i nastaveni akce ktera zmenu vyvola), tak ten soft AMD budu hodne zavidet...
vypada to velmi zajimave, zaujala me ta polozka taktovani kazdeho jadra na jinou frekvenci /proc???/ a i HT frekvence to navyseni.
Smeli ma tento thread spis jako prehledovy o novinkach nez urceny k diskuzi... takze strucne - muzes si nadefinovat pri jake akci potrebuejs jaky vykon, je to silene sikovna vec.
kdyz se budes divat na DVD tak ti staci jedno jadro s nizsi frekvenci at se CPU muze chladit pasivne a nerusi te hluk ze skrine. naopak kdyz zapnes nejakou komprimaci tak ti vyleti frekvence vsech jader na plny obratky...
me se te napad proste strasne libi. nehlede na to, ze pro maximalni OC muze kazde jadro zvladat jinou frekvenci takze z toho procesoru muzes vazne dostat vic nez maximum (jendo mene podareny jadro nechas na trochu nizsich taktech, naopak pokud je nektery podarenejsi tak ho nataktujes vys...)
to vsechno teda za predpokladu ze ten soft je vazne promakany a neni to jen oddelana zmena nasobicu kdy pustis program, nastavis neco a ono se to pro zmenu musi resetovat a nema to zadne profily...
kdyz se budes divat na DVD tak ti staci jedno jadro s nizsi frekvenci at se CPU muze chladit pasivne a nerusi te hluk ze skrine. naopak kdyz zapnes nejakou komprimaci tak ti vyleti frekvence vsech jader na plny obratky...
me se te napad proste strasne libi. nehlede na to, ze pro maximalni OC muze kazde jadro zvladat jinou frekvenci takze z toho procesoru muzes vazne dostat vic nez maximum (jendo mene podareny jadro nechas na trochu nizsich taktech, naopak pokud je nektery podarenejsi tak ho nataktujes vys...)
to vsechno teda za predpokladu ze ten soft je vazne promakany a neni to jen oddelana zmena nasobicu kdy pustis program, nastavis neco a ono se to pro zmenu musi resetovat a nema to zadne profily...
Velká škoda že tam není celý screen programu, možná bychom si o tom mohli udělat lepší obrázek.
Jinak, thread je to samozřejmě diskuzní k diskuzi o novinkách u AMD, ale jak sem bude někdo tlačit nějaký flame tak mě naštvete. :runaway:slug
Jinak, thread je to samozřejmě diskuzní k diskuzi o novinkách u AMD, ale jak sem bude někdo tlačit nějaký flame tak mě naštvete. :runaway:slug
Vypadá to skvěle, jsem na 100 % přesvědčen že s tím půjde manipulovat za chodu. To je totiž jeden z hlavních taháků spornosti nových čipů. Každé jádro je nezávisle napájeno, samozřejmě zůstávají technologie z minula, takže půjde určitě na každá jádro zvlášť nasadit např. RM Clock. Myslím že záleží jen na lidech co udělají za prográmky...ale HW potenciál tu je. Jen to z vysokou pravděpostí
nepůjde
na AM2. Resp. nepůjde napájet jádra zvlášť, předpokládám že ta frekvence asi taky ne...
Srovnavaci minitest Phenom x4 9000 (2000Mhz) vs top produkt AMD Athlon x2 6400+ 3200Mhz
viz priloha !!
viz priloha !!
Ty výsledky odpovídají tomu, že je PCMark 05 jednovláknová aplikace.
Zde je vidět, že K10 ztrácí 60% frekvence, ale výsledky jsou jen o +/- 11% slabší.
Takže hodně slušné
Zde je vidět, že K10 ztrácí 60% frekvence, ale výsledky jsou jen o +/- 11% slabší.
Takže hodně slušné
Jaj to ešte nič neni, čo som mal možnosť si prečítať o K10 , jej funkciách a schopnostiach tak my slinky tiekli :) Zatiaľ tie testy K10 sú preto také biedne lebo ju pustili na starých čipsetoch, ale keď sa použije novy 790 s dotiahnutými ovládačmi, tak to bude iná káva. Len tak čo my ostalo v pamäti čo využije noví čipset 790, L3 cache, vypínanie jadier schopnosť za chodu pretaktovať jedného jadra pri jednovlaknovej aplikácii a ostatne ak ich nieje treba vypnuť,HT bus na 4,2GHz, premakaná virtualizacia, integrovaný radič DDR2 1200MHz CL2 ( neoficiálne zatiaľ vypnutý integrovaný radič pre DDR3) len to prekliatie AMD a to sú ovládače. Je pravda že AMD bude pomalšie ako najvykonejšie procesory intelu ale nie o veľa :) a hlavne s cenou 5-8 tisíc :) no už sa teším :)
[QUOTE=tgfh;58997]Ty výsledky odpovídají tomu, že je PCMark 05 jednovláknová aplikace.
Zde je vidět, že K10 ztrácí 60% frekvence, ale výsledky jsou jen o +/- 11% slabší.
Takže hodně slušné[/QUOTE]
Však AMD jasne hovori že ich nove K10 budu rychlejšie od starej K8 o 40%
Zde je vidět, že K10 ztrácí 60% frekvence, ale výsledky jsou jen o +/- 11% slabší.
Takže hodně slušné[/QUOTE]
Však AMD jasne hovori že ich nove K10 budu rychlejšie od starej K8 o 40%
a predbezny vydani tehle procesoru uz je znamy?
[QUOTE=Razi3L;59376]a predbezny vydani tehle procesoru uz je znamy?[/QUOTE]
19. listopad společně s HD3870 tuším, dostupnost později začátkem prosince, někdo říký že vyjdou verze 2,3GHz a 2,5GHz, někdo že 2,2, 2,4 a 2,6GHz... těžko říct
19. listopad společně s HD3870 tuším, dostupnost později začátkem prosince, někdo říký že vyjdou verze 2,3GHz a 2,5GHz, někdo že 2,2, 2,4 a 2,6GHz... těžko říct
[QUOTE=Smeli;59408]19. listopad společně s HD3870 tuším, dostupnost později začátkem prosince, někdo říký že vyjdou verze 2,3GHz a 2,5GHz, někdo že 2,2, 2,4 a 2,6GHz... těžko říct[/QUOTE]
tak to je super,prave sem se ted nikde nedocet,kdy maj vyjit novy Radeony a jestli to je takhle brzo,tak to je fakt hodne dobre uz se tesim
tak to je super,prave sem se ted nikde nedocet,kdy maj vyjit novy Radeony a jestli to je takhle brzo,tak to je fakt hodne dobre uz se tesim
Mam dojem,ze maji vyjit 3 procesory o frekvencich 2,2 2,3 a 2,4Ghz....Ale budou pomerne drahe :(...Kolem 4-5500Kc odhad.I kdyz na 4-jadro je to dobra cena :)
[QUOTE=flanker;59666]Mam dojem,ze maji vyjit 3 procesory o frekvencich 2,2 2,3 a 2,4Ghz....Ale budou pomerne drahe :(...Kolem 4-5500Kc odhad.I kdyz na 4-jadro je to dobra cena :)[/QUOTE]
http://www.it4profit.com/ecatalog/userend/shopITProdLite.jsp?SUPPLIER=741&P1S=1&P2S=1&P3S=0&ST=1&PATERN=&PT=175&MNF=&COND=701&SDATA=1&LANG=en
Edit: další šop s retail Phenomem X4: http://www.isorm.com/index.php?cPath=91_97_235&osCsid=250753f0ea11efbaacb201a0bfd5bbf6
http://www.it4profit.com/ecatalog/userend/shopITProdLite.jsp?SUPPLIER=741&P1S=1&P2S=1&P3S=0&ST=1&PATERN=&PT=175&MNF=&COND=701&SDATA=1&LANG=en
Edit: další šop s retail Phenomem X4: http://www.isorm.com/index.php?cPath=91_97_235&osCsid=250753f0ea11efbaacb201a0bfd5bbf6
Dopolední zprávy:
Expreview nás opět zásobí tímtéž, jako by průběžně doplňovali, tentokrát je to několik CPU vs. 3D Mark 06:
Stále stejné časování a frekvece v neprospěch Phenomu X4 (na desce s čipsetem RD790) - údajně špatná detekce časování by CPU-Z, frekvence je správně.
Expreview nás opět zásobí tímtéž, jako by průběžně doplňovali, tentokrát je to několik CPU vs. 3D Mark 06:
Stále stejné časování a frekvece v neprospěch Phenomu X4 (na desce s čipsetem RD790) - údajně špatná detekce časování by CPU-Z, frekvence je správně.
[QUOTE=Smeli;60470]Dopolední zprávy:
Expreview nás opět zásobí tímtéž, jako by průběžně doplňovali, tentokrát je to několik CPU vs. 3D Mark 06:
...
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Stále stejné časování a frekvece v neprospěch Phenomu X4 (na desce s čipsetem RD790) - údajně špatná detekce časování by CPU-Z, frekvence je správně.[/QUOTE]
Uz jsem take videl. Spis by me ovsem zajima nejakej Cinebench a Sisoft Sandra 2007. Ale i tak jde videt,ze vykon bude velice obstojny, spis jde o to, jak budou vyuzita vsechny 4 jadra, tam by mela byt jeho sila.
Expreview nás opět zásobí tímtéž, jako by průběžně doplňovali, tentokrát je to několik CPU vs. 3D Mark 06:
...
...
Stále stejné časování a frekvece v neprospěch Phenomu X4 (na desce s čipsetem RD790) - údajně špatná detekce časování by CPU-Z, frekvence je správně.[/QUOTE]
Uz jsem take videl. Spis by me ovsem zajima nejakej Cinebench a Sisoft Sandra 2007. Ale i tak jde videt,ze vykon bude velice obstojny, spis jde o to, jak budou vyuzita vsechny 4 jadra, tam by mela byt jeho sila.
Já nevím, moc tomuhle nevěřím, přesi jen jde o ES. Těhle 14 dní plných očekávání, ale tak už to hold bývá... I když je výkon obstojný pořád to není to, co AMD slibovalo a o to mi teď jde - takže jsem zvědav.
ja by som sa tými testami nejak netrapil. Osobne si myslim ze su dost zavadzajuce, obzvlast tie na Expreview...Ja AMDcku celkom verim a myslim ze je zbytocne sa teraz obavat, ze Phenomy nebudu az tak vykonne procesory ako mali byt....Podla mna to AMD tentokrat Intelu celkom natre :)
AMD unable to introduce 2.6GHz Phenom CPU by 2008 on barriers over 65nm conversion
[QUOTE=digitimes.com]Amid stiff barriers from 90nm and 65nm conversion, sources at Taiwan motherboard makers do not expect AMD to roll out the highest frequency 2.6GHz version of its new quad-core Phenom CPU family before 2008.
AMD declined to comment on the speculation, saying that it cannot reveal details about the upcoming Phenom launch.
The sources noted that AMD will only introduce two Phenom CPU at the November 19 launch, the 2.2GHz 9500 and 2.3GHz 9600 models. A 2.4GHz 9700 model is expected to launch during December, but a 2.6GHz one will not be introduced until 2008, they noted.
While expressing satisfaction about the new 65nm desktop CPU lineup, the motherboard makers explained the key reason for AMD failing to meet its roadmap on the launch of a 2.6GHz Phenom is because of barriers relating to conversion to 65nm.
However, the sources highlighted the competitive pricing that AMD is planning to offer. Prices for the 9500 and 9600 CPUs may be as low as US$250 and US$270 for some channels and OEMs, while the officially announced prices will be US$280 and US$320. The 9700 processor will be priced at around US$300, the sources added.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=digitimes.com]Amid stiff barriers from 90nm and 65nm conversion, sources at Taiwan motherboard makers do not expect AMD to roll out the highest frequency 2.6GHz version of its new quad-core Phenom CPU family before 2008.
AMD declined to comment on the speculation, saying that it cannot reveal details about the upcoming Phenom launch.
The sources noted that AMD will only introduce two Phenom CPU at the November 19 launch, the 2.2GHz 9500 and 2.3GHz 9600 models. A 2.4GHz 9700 model is expected to launch during December, but a 2.6GHz one will not be introduced until 2008, they noted.
While expressing satisfaction about the new 65nm desktop CPU lineup, the motherboard makers explained the key reason for AMD failing to meet its roadmap on the launch of a 2.6GHz Phenom is because of barriers relating to conversion to 65nm.
However, the sources highlighted the competitive pricing that AMD is planning to offer. Prices for the 9500 and 9600 CPUs may be as low as US$250 and US$270 for some channels and OEMs, while the officially announced prices will be US$280 and US$320. The 9700 processor will be priced at around US$300, the sources added.[/QUOTE]
Deska od Sapphiru s čipsetem RD790FX
[QUOTE=tcmagazine.com]Sapphire may not be best known for its mainboard business but that doesn't stop them from coming up with their own offers, like AMD 790FX boards for example. On November 19th when AMD will officially release the Spider platform you can expect loads of manufacturers to have boards powered by the AMD 790FX, 790X and 770 chipsets and Sapphire will be one of them. The highest-end Phenom-ready product from Sapphire will be the 790FX-powered CrossFireX PC-AM2RD790.
The upcoming motherboard will support both AM2 and AM2+ CPUs, will have DDR2-1066 support, six SATA 3.0Gbps ports and 'only' three PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots thus making it incapable off Quad-Crossfire setups (but two/three cards should work just fine).
For the AM2RD790 Sapphire didn't touch any copper piece and has equipped the board with an aluminum cooling system, complete with the ever-popular heatpipes. The backplate of Sapphire's board features two Gigabit Ethernet ports and six lovely USB 2.0 ports but interestingly-enough, no audio connectors which will probably me found on a separate PCI plate. Sapphire's board is now ready (they'll just have to erase the "LanParty") and will become available by the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16752&catid=2
[QUOTE=tcmagazine.com]Sapphire may not be best known for its mainboard business but that doesn't stop them from coming up with their own offers, like AMD 790FX boards for example. On November 19th when AMD will officially release the Spider platform you can expect loads of manufacturers to have boards powered by the AMD 790FX, 790X and 770 chipsets and Sapphire will be one of them. The highest-end Phenom-ready product from Sapphire will be the 790FX-powered CrossFireX PC-AM2RD790.
The upcoming motherboard will support both AM2 and AM2+ CPUs, will have DDR2-1066 support, six SATA 3.0Gbps ports and 'only' three PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots thus making it incapable off Quad-Crossfire setups (but two/three cards should work just fine).
For the AM2RD790 Sapphire didn't touch any copper piece and has equipped the board with an aluminum cooling system, complete with the ever-popular heatpipes. The backplate of Sapphire's board features two Gigabit Ethernet ports and six lovely USB 2.0 ports but interestingly-enough, no audio connectors which will probably me found on a separate PCI plate. Sapphire's board is now ready (they'll just have to erase the "LanParty") and will become available by the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16752&catid=2
vypada nadherne:) jen kdyby se to tak u nas dalo sehnat...
ten chladic co je pres pul I/O panelu ma nejakou podezdrelou pozici na heatpipe:) urcite tam bude nejake dalsi chladic mimo case:)
ten chladic co je pres pul I/O panelu ma nejakou podezdrelou pozici na heatpipe:) urcite tam bude nejake dalsi chladic mimo case:)
[QUOTE=mech13;61231]vypada nadherne:) jen kdyby se to tak u nas dalo sehnat...
ten chladic co je pres pul I/O panelu ma nejakou podezdrelou pozici na heatpipe:) urcite tam bude nejake dalsi chladic mimo case:)[/QUOTE]
Mě štve že se k nám nedostali desky pro mainstream a high end od Sapphiru, krásné bílé PCB :inlove:inlove:inlove
ten chladic co je pres pul I/O panelu ma nejakou podezdrelou pozici na heatpipe:) urcite tam bude nejake dalsi chladic mimo case:)[/QUOTE]
Mě štve že se k nám nedostali desky pro mainstream a high end od Sapphiru, krásné bílé PCB :inlove:inlove:inlove
[quote=Smeli;61233]Mě štve že se k nám nedostali desky pro mainstream a high end od Sapphiru, krásné bílé PCB :inlove:inlove:inlove[/quote]
Myslíš tuto:
http://www.100mega.cz/product.jsp?artno=MBSA0620
Myslíš tuto:
http://www.100mega.cz/product.jsp?artno=MBSA0620
[QUOTE=tgfh;61235]Myslíš tuto:
http://www.100mega.cz/product.jsp?artno=MBSA0620[/QUOTE]
Jop :)
http://www.100mega.cz/product.jsp?artno=MBSA0620[/QUOTE]
Jop :)
Pekna deska, sna tentokrat s deskami Spahire to bude lepsi a budou bezne dostupne...Treba v alfacomputers, kde maji dostatek Saphire karet, tak snad zavedou i desky :). Mozna zkusim pozjistit :)
[QUOTE=flanker;61298]Pekna deska, sna tentokrat s deskami Spahire to bude lepsi a budou bezne dostupne...Treba v alfacomputers, kde maji dostatek Saphire karet, tak snad zavedou i desky :). Mozna zkusim pozjistit :)[/QUOTE]
Hlavně je ale musí mít distributor, což např. u 100megy sem viděl jen tu na s čipsetem 690 (tuším boboco ji recenzoval), ale ostatní sem dostupné v žádném shopu neviděl (a to sme ji hledal teda vehementně)
Hlavně je ale musí mít distributor, což např. u 100megy sem viděl jen tu na s čipsetem 690 (tuším boboco ji recenzoval), ale ostatní sem dostupné v žádném shopu neviděl (a to sme ji hledal teda vehementně)
Já ji taky hledal vehementně, pak jsem na ni narazil náhodou, asi někdy v srpnu
Referenční design pro AM3 desky:
http://www.chilehardware.com/foro/exclusivo-placa-madre-t124173.html?t=124173
http://www.chilehardware.com/foro/exclusivo-placa-madre-t124173.html?t=124173
[QUOTE=Smeli;61479]Referenční design pro AM3 desky:[/QUOTE]
Uf uf co to má být...? 14 USB :eek: nikdá sem nepoužil víc jak dvě, ani sem to snad nikdy nikde použitý neviděl...navíc proč vlastně vznikla ta myšlenka se sériovým zapojením až 127 zařízení, když stejně je tu odjakživa trend čím víc tím líp, ačkoliv je to nevyužitelný...? :eek: Jinak to vypadá dobře...jo, není tam někde zmínka kolik teda bude přesně těch PCIe linek...? Nějak se nemůžu dopočítat :runaway
Uf uf co to má být...? 14 USB :eek: nikdá sem nepoužil víc jak dvě, ani sem to snad nikdy nikde použitý neviděl...navíc proč vlastně vznikla ta myšlenka se sériovým zapojením až 127 zařízení, když stejně je tu odjakživa trend čím víc tím líp, ačkoliv je to nevyužitelný...? :eek: Jinak to vypadá dobře...jo, není tam někde zmínka kolik teda bude přesně těch PCIe linek...? Nějak se nemůžu dopočítat :runaway
[QUOTE=Pavel Boček;61486]Uf uf co to má být...? 14 USB :eek: nikdá sem nepoužil víc jak dvě, ani sem to snad nikdy nikde použitý neviděl...[/QUOTE]
To, ze jsi je nepouzil ty neznamena, ze vic jak 2 USB nepouziva nikdo jinej :eek:. Ja jich mam 8 a mam pomalicku problem hledat novy, kdyz si domu prinesu nejaky dalsi zarizeni (staci nejaky externi disky + mys + klavesnice + modem + tiskarna +...) a potom se blbe nejaky volny USB hleda...
To, ze jsi je nepouzil ty neznamena, ze vic jak 2 USB nepouziva nikdo jinej :eek:. Ja jich mam 8 a mam pomalicku problem hledat novy, kdyz si domu prinesu nejaky dalsi zarizeni (staci nejaky externi disky + mys + klavesnice + modem + tiskarna +...) a potom se blbe nejaky volny USB hleda...
Je to tak usb vladne svetem .. ja jsem zvyklej mit jeste minimalne dva vyvody pres prodluzku na stul v jedny mivam vetsinou modrozub kvuli synchonizaci a do druhe cpu disk nebo klicenku .. jinak dalsi usb doma mys .. napajeni k HP barracuda headsetu .. tiskarna . to mas hned 5 jen to hvizdne
[QUOTE=Pavel Boček;62366]http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/10/amd-phenom-790fx-utility-jewel
[/QUOTE]
pripadne davam odkaz na utilitu amd overdrive:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloadfile&dno=6176&type=utility
[/QUOTE]pripadne davam odkaz na utilitu amd overdrive:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloadfile&dno=6176&type=utility
toto vse z modelu na 2ghz
[QUOTE="Fudzilla"]DAAMIT decided to completely change the branding. What used to be silver coloured will be black from now on and we believe it looks better in black. It has some extrude but it looks much like the ATI logo before.
Crossfire orphan logo gets its own squared logo but from tomorrow on Crossfire will be branded as Crossfire X as it supports two, three and four cards.
Crossfire certified funny shaped logo will get its Squared CrossfireX certified and Crossfire logo will be known as Crossfire Technology.
Thank you AMD, for making these logos much more convenient for us, as they just fit much better if they are squared. Here they are, below.[/QUOTE]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4199&Itemid=1
Crossfire orphan logo gets its own squared logo but from tomorrow on Crossfire will be branded as Crossfire X as it supports two, three and four cards.
Crossfire certified funny shaped logo will get its Squared CrossfireX certified and Crossfire logo will be known as Crossfire Technology.
Thank you AMD, for making these logos much more convenient for us, as they just fit much better if they are squared. Here they are, below.[/QUOTE]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4199&Itemid=1
Dnes se objevily dalsi testy Phenomu,ovsem nemely by se brat natolik vazne,nebot se jedna o revize B2, aktualni revize jsou B3F a ty by mely jit do prodeje /doufejme!/. B2 je zhruba z dubna-kvetna, pak byla B3-zlepsila hlavne taktovani a po jeste nejakych chybach s radicem s predchozich revizi prisla B3F.
viz http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the_spider_weaves_its_web/page2.html
viz http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the_spider_weaves_its_web/page2.html
[QUOTE=flanker;64459]...[/QUOTE]
A já bych zase řekl že teď máme B2 :) BF3 je pokročilejší, s tou to dává přes 3 GHz a přijde v lednu.
Jinak
[QUOTE="Fudzilla"][SIZE="1"]We had a chance to play with one of the world’s first Phenom 9700 processors. As we said earlier, AMD will launch the 2.2 GHz Phenom 9500 and the 2.3GHz Phenom 9600 CPUs, but we got our hands on unlocked 2.4GHz. Yeah, that is the one that got postponed to 2008.
Phenom 9500 and 9700 bring some R300 memories back, and remind us of Uwe’s Radeon 9700 launch with the live guns playing Half Life 2 in Munich.
Anyway, after more than six months of delays and serious problems, we had a chance to see a Phenom in action. Overall it looks good, not great, it has to be faster.
Naturally we tried to overclock the 2.4GHz part and AMD let us do only selected application benchmarketing, obviously the ones that make them look good. This is not the way to make any big conclusion, but the machine at 2.4GHz runs good with 3Dmark06, Call or Juarez benchmark, can do some serious encoding and zipping, but we had very few numbers that were close to the testing that we do and understand.
A few years ago we found that if you can get a CPU to run 3Dmark06 stable, it will be stable in just about anything. We managed to overclock it instantly to 2.8 GHz and we even did some independent core overclocking, where two were working at 2.4GHz and two 2.8 GHz and again we gain a lot, but more about this one later.
Phenom 9700 2.4GHz runs at 1.25V and if you want it stable at 2.8 and 2.915, which was our absolute record, you need between 1.35 and 1.425V. We managed to boot at 3015GHz but we never made it stable. We also learned that MSI's 790FX board might be a better overclocker so as soon as we get Phenom 2.4GHz or faster, unlocked we will continue to play with it.
Phenom 2.915MHz was almost stable but it tends to crash in the final snow test. If we had more time this we would have probably made this clock possible too. Our Finnish colleagues managed to get it stable at 3.0GHz, but it all depends on the sample you got and obviously they are far more experienced in this, as Sampsa and Markus are holding some top scores in 3Dmark06 on some insanely fast machines.
We did most of the overclocking in Overdrive, the application itself needs some tweaking but it works great. When we tried to overclock the HT, we did it in Bios but we could not go over 215MHz, at least not with 12 -13 multiplier. AMD also supports 0.5 steps which make it even easier to overclock.
On a non-overclcoked Phenom 2.4 you score about 1200 in 3Dmark06, while with 2.8GHz you can increase the Crossfire 2x 3850 performance which is not bad. We need a CPU and more time to tell you more. Here is what we got.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4285&Itemid=1
A já bych zase řekl že teď máme B2 :) BF3 je pokročilejší, s tou to dává přes 3 GHz a přijde v lednu.
Jinak
[QUOTE="Fudzilla"][SIZE="1"]We had a chance to play with one of the world’s first Phenom 9700 processors. As we said earlier, AMD will launch the 2.2 GHz Phenom 9500 and the 2.3GHz Phenom 9600 CPUs, but we got our hands on unlocked 2.4GHz. Yeah, that is the one that got postponed to 2008.
Phenom 9500 and 9700 bring some R300 memories back, and remind us of Uwe’s Radeon 9700 launch with the live guns playing Half Life 2 in Munich.
Anyway, after more than six months of delays and serious problems, we had a chance to see a Phenom in action. Overall it looks good, not great, it has to be faster.
Naturally we tried to overclock the 2.4GHz part and AMD let us do only selected application benchmarketing, obviously the ones that make them look good. This is not the way to make any big conclusion, but the machine at 2.4GHz runs good with 3Dmark06, Call or Juarez benchmark, can do some serious encoding and zipping, but we had very few numbers that were close to the testing that we do and understand.
A few years ago we found that if you can get a CPU to run 3Dmark06 stable, it will be stable in just about anything. We managed to overclock it instantly to 2.8 GHz and we even did some independent core overclocking, where two were working at 2.4GHz and two 2.8 GHz and again we gain a lot, but more about this one later.
Phenom 9700 2.4GHz runs at 1.25V and if you want it stable at 2.8 and 2.915, which was our absolute record, you need between 1.35 and 1.425V. We managed to boot at 3015GHz but we never made it stable. We also learned that MSI's 790FX board might be a better overclocker so as soon as we get Phenom 2.4GHz or faster, unlocked we will continue to play with it.
Phenom 2.915MHz was almost stable but it tends to crash in the final snow test. If we had more time this we would have probably made this clock possible too. Our Finnish colleagues managed to get it stable at 3.0GHz, but it all depends on the sample you got and obviously they are far more experienced in this, as Sampsa and Markus are holding some top scores in 3Dmark06 on some insanely fast machines.
We did most of the overclocking in Overdrive, the application itself needs some tweaking but it works great. When we tried to overclock the HT, we did it in Bios but we could not go over 215MHz, at least not with 12 -13 multiplier. AMD also supports 0.5 steps which make it even easier to overclock.
On a non-overclcoked Phenom 2.4 you score about 1200 in 3Dmark06, while with 2.8GHz you can increase the Crossfire 2x 3850 performance which is not bad. We need a CPU and more time to tell you more. Here is what we got.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4285&Itemid=1
Tak o takovim score se mi nezdá ani v 3DMark03 :D
http://infomars.fr/forum/index.php?showtopic=1052
Ten cooler nevypadá moc khůl... chjo, trochu inovace do toho umírání :D
Mne se nelibi moc referenci chladic AMD cek :(,cekal,jsem,zjestli endaji jinej vetracek...
Ikdyby dali jiný větráček, stejně ten kdo chce ticho/účinné chlazení si koupí jiný chladič
[QUOTE="The Inquirer"]
[SIZE="4"]Abu Dhabi to buy nine per cent of AMD[/SIZE]
Arabian Micro Devices
AMD IS TO flog off nine per cent of itself to Abu Dhabi.
The deal will cost the country around $700 million "people close to the situation" apparently told the Financial Times.
The acquisition would go through the Mubadala Development Company which is a front for the Government of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, which in the United Arab Emirates.
The deal may yet be scuppered by the American Committee on Foreign Investment in the US which may find the fact that an Arab state owns part of the largely US chip company objectionable.
AMD could do with the dosh, however. Last night, the firm said in a regulatory filing that it was considering the sale of up to $700 million in common stock in order to reduce its debt mountain which stands at something in the region of $5.3 billion.
AMD said it would prefer us not to call it Arabian Micro Devices*.[/QUOTE]
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/16/arabs-parts-amd
Arabian Micro Devices
AMD IS TO flog off nine per cent of itself to Abu Dhabi.
The deal will cost the country around $700 million "people close to the situation" apparently told the Financial Times.
The acquisition would go through the Mubadala Development Company which is a front for the Government of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, which in the United Arab Emirates.
The deal may yet be scuppered by the American Committee on Foreign Investment in the US which may find the fact that an Arab state owns part of the largely US chip company objectionable.
AMD could do with the dosh, however. Last night, the firm said in a regulatory filing that it was considering the sale of up to $700 million in common stock in order to reduce its debt mountain which stands at something in the region of $5.3 billion.
AMD said it would prefer us not to call it Arabian Micro Devices*.[/QUOTE]
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/16/arabs-parts-amd
pre tých čo to nevideli, hadam sa niekto najde :confused:
kdyz uz jsme u tech videi:
Že by se konečně začlo něco řešit?
AMD grooms Meyer to replace Ruiz
[QUOTE]Advanced Micro Devices Inc. said it is grooming president and chief operating officer Dirk Meyer to take over as top executive at the microprocessor supplier although current chairman and CEO Hector Ruiz has no immediate plans to step down, according to news reports.
Responding to questions on a European business news channel, Ruiz said he expects to remain at the head of the company throughout 2008 and did not disclose when he might hand over to Meyer.
"We started doing [the succession planning] four years ago and I'm delighted that Dirk is a strong player," Ruiz reportedly told CNBC Europe. "When the time comes for me to hand the reins over to him, it's going to be fantastic."
Meyer has been with AMD for 12 years and prior to his appointment as COO and president, managed the company's microprocessor solutions business. He previously worked at Digital Equipment Corp. and Intel Corp.[/QUOTE]
AMD grooms Meyer to replace Ruiz
[QUOTE]Advanced Micro Devices Inc. said it is grooming president and chief operating officer Dirk Meyer to take over as top executive at the microprocessor supplier although current chairman and CEO Hector Ruiz has no immediate plans to step down, according to news reports.
Responding to questions on a European business news channel, Ruiz said he expects to remain at the head of the company throughout 2008 and did not disclose when he might hand over to Meyer.
"We started doing [the succession planning] four years ago and I'm delighted that Dirk is a strong player," Ruiz reportedly told CNBC Europe. "When the time comes for me to hand the reins over to him, it's going to be fantastic."
Meyer has been with AMD for 12 years and prior to his appointment as COO and president, managed the company's microprocessor solutions business. He previously worked at Digital Equipment Corp. and Intel Corp.[/QUOTE]
ono ten je nejaka konference ne?Nebo v blizkych dnech,tak snad se dozvime vice :).Meli by tam ukazat i B3 revizy uz...
AMD Humbles Itself Before Wall Street, Adds Roadmap Details
[QUOTE]AMD executives fell all over themselves apologizing for the chip maker's 2007 performance at its annual analyst meeting Thursday, and promised the company would return to form in 2008.
AMD executives confirmed that the company would launch a revamped version of its "Barcelona" quad-core processor in the first quarter, following the discovery of a bug this month. But shipments of its desktop quad-core Phenom chips will continue, paired with a BIOS fix that the company issued to OEMs at its launch.
AMD also said that it will launch "Montreal," a quad-core server processor, in 2009, accompanying its first server platform, which the company code-named "Piranha". That year will also see the launch of what AMD now calls its "accelerated processing units," or what the company previously called its "Fusion" processors. These cores will pair one or more CPUs with one or more GPUs, adding a new wrinkle to the company's product line. The first of these chips, called "Swift," will be part of the "Shrike" notebook platform scheduled for the second half of 2009.
Rick Bergman, AMD's senior vice president and GM of its graphics group, confirmed that AMD will launch both the RV620 low-end GPU and RV635 mainstream graphics chip in January. Bergman also confirmed that future AMD integrated GPUs will be able to work with AMD-branded graphics cards in tandem, producing a sort of poor man's dual-GPU setup that AMD calls "hybrid graphics". He declined to confirm which cards and chipsets would be hybrid-enabled.
Scheduling, however, was AMD's downfall in 2007, and executives reiterated how sorry they all were for missing opportunities, especially in the quad-core market. AMD nevertheless shipped tens of thousands of quad-core units in the third quarter, hundreds of thousands of quad-core processors in the fourth quarter and at least twice the fourth-quarter amount in the first quarter of 2008, said Mario Rivas, executive vice president of the Computing Products Group. Those numbers represent about a 3:1 ratio of the Phenom to Barcelona chips, he said. The Barcelona chip is still shipping to selected customers; samples of fixed Barcelonas will ship in January, and will ramp at the end of the first quarter.
"We blew it, and we're very humbled by it, and we're going to learn from it, and we're not going to do it again," said Hector Ruiz, AMD's chairman and chief executive officer.
AMD's 2007 recap went something like this: following the company's acquisition of ATI last fall, AMD lost immediate, significant share in the channel. The company recovered, but was late with the HD2000 series. At the same time, the company was unable to get the Barcelona and Phenom products out in time to compete with Intel's well-received Core 2 Quad products. In the mobile space, the company's exclusive ties with Motorola soured when Motorola's share itself declined; as chief financial officer Bob Rivet put it, "the patient got sick and we went to the hospital."
In short, AMD will lose money across all of its business units for the year, Rivet said, who called AMD's cash flow "totally unacceptable".
The lack of profits and lower revenues have had an effect on AMD, which has shifted toward an "asset lite" or "asset smart" strategy which has emphasized partnering with companies like IBM for research and development, with fabs like Chartered Semicondutor to serve as a safety valve for additional manufacturing, if needed. AMD's Fab 36 In Dresden is in 65-nm production, and shifting to 45-nm production in the first half of 2008. The complementary Fab 38 will be up and running in 2009, and a "bump and test" supplementary facility is also in place, executives said. AMD estimated that its "sellable" MPU die output would be about 90 million units in 2007, climbing to just upwards of 100 million units for 2008, according to Doug Grose, the company's senior vice president of manufacturing.
The "asset smart" strategy means that the money AMD spends on capital expenses – one of the largest line items on a company's balance sheet – will decrease for the second straight year, saving the company money. AMD estimates its 2008 capex costs will be $1.10 billion, down from $1.86 billion in 2006 and from $1.7 billion in 2007.
AMD executives said they hope to follow the example of Bergman's graphics division, which rebounded from a tough first quarter with an "action plan" to regain AMD's trust among its channel partners. AMD and its partner, TSMC, successfully transitioned its GPU line onto the finer 55-nm process, which will be the foundation of both the RV620 and the RV635. There is positive news in the consumer segment, too; ATI was named as a partner of Samsung for its 120-Hz LCD TVs, a technology which smooths motion artifacts.
In the mobile graphics segment, AMD expects to launch the M8X in the spring, a Direct X 10.1 part with the capability for HD Decoding and PowerPlay, which manages the power efficiency of the notebook. More importantly, that chip began sampling in the summer, allowing notebook manufacturers to build it into their 2008 designs. By its own estimates, AMD won 60 design wins in 2006; that number has increased to 100 in 2007, versus an estimated 80 for Intel, Bergman said.
"It is fully my expectation that ATI graphics will return to the top" of the graphics market after a one-year hiatus, Bergman said.[/QUOTE]
Doufejme, že se Bergmanovo přání naplní. Alespoň to .)
[QUOTE]AMD executives fell all over themselves apologizing for the chip maker's 2007 performance at its annual analyst meeting Thursday, and promised the company would return to form in 2008.
AMD executives confirmed that the company would launch a revamped version of its "Barcelona" quad-core processor in the first quarter, following the discovery of a bug this month. But shipments of its desktop quad-core Phenom chips will continue, paired with a BIOS fix that the company issued to OEMs at its launch.
AMD also said that it will launch "Montreal," a quad-core server processor, in 2009, accompanying its first server platform, which the company code-named "Piranha". That year will also see the launch of what AMD now calls its "accelerated processing units," or what the company previously called its "Fusion" processors. These cores will pair one or more CPUs with one or more GPUs, adding a new wrinkle to the company's product line. The first of these chips, called "Swift," will be part of the "Shrike" notebook platform scheduled for the second half of 2009.
Rick Bergman, AMD's senior vice president and GM of its graphics group, confirmed that AMD will launch both the RV620 low-end GPU and RV635 mainstream graphics chip in January. Bergman also confirmed that future AMD integrated GPUs will be able to work with AMD-branded graphics cards in tandem, producing a sort of poor man's dual-GPU setup that AMD calls "hybrid graphics". He declined to confirm which cards and chipsets would be hybrid-enabled.
Scheduling, however, was AMD's downfall in 2007, and executives reiterated how sorry they all were for missing opportunities, especially in the quad-core market. AMD nevertheless shipped tens of thousands of quad-core units in the third quarter, hundreds of thousands of quad-core processors in the fourth quarter and at least twice the fourth-quarter amount in the first quarter of 2008, said Mario Rivas, executive vice president of the Computing Products Group. Those numbers represent about a 3:1 ratio of the Phenom to Barcelona chips, he said. The Barcelona chip is still shipping to selected customers; samples of fixed Barcelonas will ship in January, and will ramp at the end of the first quarter.
"We blew it, and we're very humbled by it, and we're going to learn from it, and we're not going to do it again," said Hector Ruiz, AMD's chairman and chief executive officer.
AMD's 2007 recap went something like this: following the company's acquisition of ATI last fall, AMD lost immediate, significant share in the channel. The company recovered, but was late with the HD2000 series. At the same time, the company was unable to get the Barcelona and Phenom products out in time to compete with Intel's well-received Core 2 Quad products. In the mobile space, the company's exclusive ties with Motorola soured when Motorola's share itself declined; as chief financial officer Bob Rivet put it, "the patient got sick and we went to the hospital."
In short, AMD will lose money across all of its business units for the year, Rivet said, who called AMD's cash flow "totally unacceptable".
The lack of profits and lower revenues have had an effect on AMD, which has shifted toward an "asset lite" or "asset smart" strategy which has emphasized partnering with companies like IBM for research and development, with fabs like Chartered Semicondutor to serve as a safety valve for additional manufacturing, if needed. AMD's Fab 36 In Dresden is in 65-nm production, and shifting to 45-nm production in the first half of 2008. The complementary Fab 38 will be up and running in 2009, and a "bump and test" supplementary facility is also in place, executives said. AMD estimated that its "sellable" MPU die output would be about 90 million units in 2007, climbing to just upwards of 100 million units for 2008, according to Doug Grose, the company's senior vice president of manufacturing.
The "asset smart" strategy means that the money AMD spends on capital expenses – one of the largest line items on a company's balance sheet – will decrease for the second straight year, saving the company money. AMD estimates its 2008 capex costs will be $1.10 billion, down from $1.86 billion in 2006 and from $1.7 billion in 2007.
AMD executives said they hope to follow the example of Bergman's graphics division, which rebounded from a tough first quarter with an "action plan" to regain AMD's trust among its channel partners. AMD and its partner, TSMC, successfully transitioned its GPU line onto the finer 55-nm process, which will be the foundation of both the RV620 and the RV635. There is positive news in the consumer segment, too; ATI was named as a partner of Samsung for its 120-Hz LCD TVs, a technology which smooths motion artifacts.
In the mobile graphics segment, AMD expects to launch the M8X in the spring, a Direct X 10.1 part with the capability for HD Decoding and PowerPlay, which manages the power efficiency of the notebook. More importantly, that chip began sampling in the summer, allowing notebook manufacturers to build it into their 2008 designs. By its own estimates, AMD won 60 design wins in 2006; that number has increased to 100 in 2007, versus an estimated 80 for Intel, Bergman said.
"It is fully my expectation that ATI graphics will return to the top" of the graphics market after a one-year hiatus, Bergman said.[/QUOTE]
Doufejme, že se Bergmanovo přání naplní. Alespoň to .)
Jinak dalsi zpravou,co jsem vcera nasel na netu, uz se mi to bohuzel nechce hledat a dokazovat odkazem :D, je, ze se bude dale prodavat Athlon x2 64 vyrabeny 65nm vyrobou a nove revize.90nm by se vyrabet tedy nemela a jen doprodavat...Na novou revizy jsem osobne zvedavej,co prinese noveho..
Porovnani vykonnosti jednoho jadra Athlon 64 X2 vs Phenom X4, pekny testik..:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/19/amd_phenom_athlon_64_x2/
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/12/19/amd_phenom_athlon_64_x2/
To co již víme je konečně oficiálně potvrzeno :)
AMD: Barcelona fixed, 45 nm to ramp in H2
[QUOTE]Sunnyvale (CA) – A clearly more upbeat AMD was able to report some positive news about its quad-core bug as well as the progress to roll out 45 nm processors.
AMD chief executive officer Hector Ruiz today told analysts that the company has fixed a bug that severely impacted the launch of the company’s Opteron and Phenom quad-core processors. According to Ruiz, the bug has been fixed and the fixed B3 stepping CPU “has left the fab”.
President Dirk Meyer said that the CPU is “running through the paces internally” at this time with engineering samples expected to be shipped to customers within “2 to 3 weeks”. Volume production is scheduled to begin “later in the quarter” and first systems with the fixed processors should become available late in Q1, Meyer said.
Production volume of Barcelona and Phenom quad-core will be about double of the “nearly 400,000 units” that were manufactured during Q4, CFO Bob Rivet noted. On the server side, AMD will focus to get “mid-band power, high volume” quad-core Opterons into the market with higher speeds, 2.5 GHz and above, being scheduled for a Q2 introduction. As previously reported, the higher speed Phenoms will also have to wait: AMD will roll out triple-core Phenoms and 65-watt (low power) quad-core CPUs during Q1. “Higher speeds will follow in Q2”, Meyer stated.
There also was some positive news on the company’s 45 nm progress. Ruiz said that AMD that 45 nm Opterons have been produced and he is “pleased” with the initial result. However, he said that the company is targeting a H2 ramp of the 45 nm generation, which indicates that AMD will miss the originally promised mid-2008 launch of the processors. This statement also contradicts Meyer’s statement from the Q3 2007 earnings call that AMD would begin ramping 45 nm CPUs in H1 2008.
A late 2008 launch of 45 nm processors appears to be more likely now, which means that the 1-year gap to Intel could remain in place and the company will not be able to gain ground on its rival in terms of the production process.[/QUOTE]
AMD: Barcelona fixed, 45 nm to ramp in H2
[QUOTE]Sunnyvale (CA) – A clearly more upbeat AMD was able to report some positive news about its quad-core bug as well as the progress to roll out 45 nm processors.
AMD chief executive officer Hector Ruiz today told analysts that the company has fixed a bug that severely impacted the launch of the company’s Opteron and Phenom quad-core processors. According to Ruiz, the bug has been fixed and the fixed B3 stepping CPU “has left the fab”.
President Dirk Meyer said that the CPU is “running through the paces internally” at this time with engineering samples expected to be shipped to customers within “2 to 3 weeks”. Volume production is scheduled to begin “later in the quarter” and first systems with the fixed processors should become available late in Q1, Meyer said.
Production volume of Barcelona and Phenom quad-core will be about double of the “nearly 400,000 units” that were manufactured during Q4, CFO Bob Rivet noted. On the server side, AMD will focus to get “mid-band power, high volume” quad-core Opterons into the market with higher speeds, 2.5 GHz and above, being scheduled for a Q2 introduction. As previously reported, the higher speed Phenoms will also have to wait: AMD will roll out triple-core Phenoms and 65-watt (low power) quad-core CPUs during Q1. “Higher speeds will follow in Q2”, Meyer stated.
There also was some positive news on the company’s 45 nm progress. Ruiz said that AMD that 45 nm Opterons have been produced and he is “pleased” with the initial result. However, he said that the company is targeting a H2 ramp of the 45 nm generation, which indicates that AMD will miss the originally promised mid-2008 launch of the processors. This statement also contradicts Meyer’s statement from the Q3 2007 earnings call that AMD would begin ramping 45 nm CPUs in H1 2008.
A late 2008 launch of 45 nm processors appears to be more likely now, which means that the 1-year gap to Intel could remain in place and the company will not be able to gain ground on its rival in terms of the production process.[/QUOTE]
IBM to take over AMD?
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[QUOTE]SAN FRANCISCO — Advanced Micro Devices shares rose as much as 8 percent Wednesday (Jan. 23) on speculation that the microchip maker might be bought by IBM, but analysts said the chances of an acquisition were slim.
"The takeover of AMD by IBM has been mentioned before and with AMD shares being so low, it might be a good time for IBM to acquire them," said William Lefkowitz, options strategist at brokerage firm vFinance Investments in New York.
IBM of Armonk, New York, has had a research and development expense-sharing agreement with AMD, and analysts have speculated that AMD might want to use IBM's East Fishkill, New York, chip-fabrication plant to build microprocessors.
An acquisition of AMD would be "a pretty low-probability event because IBM is moving away from hardware and manufacturing and moving to software and solutions," said Ashok Kumar, an analyst at CRT Capital Group. "I don't think IBM wants the bragging rights to go up against Intel."
"IBM buying AMD is a nonstarter," Kumar said. "There's no rationale for that. Investors would just pound IBM's stock."
IBM has been exiting computer hardware businesses to focus on higher-profit software and technology services tailored to clients.
An acquisition of AMD would "destroy shareholder value for IBM," Kumar said. "That argument is a nonstarter."ngthen their current partnership.
"A deal could see IBM's microelectronics division merge with AMD at some point, possibly in the near term," mergermarket.com correspondent David Zielenziger wrote, citing "industry sources."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]SAN FRANCISCO — Advanced Micro Devices shares rose as much as 8 percent Wednesday (Jan. 23) on speculation that the microchip maker might be bought by IBM, but analysts said the chances of an acquisition were slim.
"The takeover of AMD by IBM has been mentioned before and with AMD shares being so low, it might be a good time for IBM to acquire them," said William Lefkowitz, options strategist at brokerage firm vFinance Investments in New York.
IBM of Armonk, New York, has had a research and development expense-sharing agreement with AMD, and analysts have speculated that AMD might want to use IBM's East Fishkill, New York, chip-fabrication plant to build microprocessors.
An acquisition of AMD would be "a pretty low-probability event because IBM is moving away from hardware and manufacturing and moving to software and solutions," said Ashok Kumar, an analyst at CRT Capital Group. "I don't think IBM wants the bragging rights to go up against Intel."
"IBM buying AMD is a nonstarter," Kumar said. "There's no rationale for that. Investors would just pound IBM's stock."
IBM has been exiting computer hardware businesses to focus on higher-profit software and technology services tailored to clients.
An acquisition of AMD would "destroy shareholder value for IBM," Kumar said. "That argument is a nonstarter."ngthen their current partnership.
"A deal could see IBM's microelectronics division merge with AMD at some point, possibly in the near term," mergermarket.com correspondent David Zielenziger wrote, citing "industry sources."[/QUOTE]
